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Forum topic by tesla2 ยท updated 2012-11-13 16:53:00

Experiment for LIGO INTERFEROMETER ARM

Recovered historical discussion from Experiment for LIGO INTERFEROMETER ARM.

in pdf I explain What I want measure in LIGO How I want measure What we will get after finish below experiment is Nobel Level nobody can say that this what I show is mistake problem is that I'm not reach problem is that I not have contacts ( my english is bad ) I ask on this forum about help in contacts if exist x distance it mean that very easy we can recognize own Velocity in univerce without relative mistake only by measure "x " if not exist "x" it mean that gravitation take light to target ( it is aslo very important ) we can recognize and measure many relation between light and gravitation I add pdf file and also link PDF*Host BR MAROSZ POLISZ TESLA 2 I HOPE THAT NOBODY WILL COPY MY IDEA AS OWN IT IS NOBEL PRIZE Archived source: https://web.archive.org/web/20121203062433/http://www.spacetimeandtheuniverse.com:80/general-physics/5816-experiment-ligo-interferometer-arm.html

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Neverfly 2012-11-11 17:35:00
I don't understand why you've started a new thread on this. You've already injected your idea in others threads, numerous times and Bulariechk showed you the errors that you now say cannot be shown as your idea is Nobel Level. You also started this thread. I understand how frustrating a language barrier can be. However, I don't think this is a language barrier problem. I think the problem is a common problem. You wish to " Prove Einstein Wrong" but you know that if you say so right away, you will meet resistance. I suspected this in the first thread you started, but wanted to give some benefit of the doubt... Considering that you haven't addressed the errors shown, simply saying, "Sorry, it's not Nobel level" may not convince you. Edit to add: This is what I get for skim reading... It's worse than I thought... True. Then, after admitting this, you declare: Apparently "someone" is "nobody..." 4, 6, 8, who do we appreciate?
tesla2 2012-11-12 02:04:00
I show above real experiment in real condition I write what I schould See I can easy evaluate "X" distance Are You Sure what will happen after 1/300 000 If "Yes" so write here Your opinion If NOT write me Your opinion Many people say this guy was great that Theory is perfect .... ( this is only talking - Yes , Not - or what will happen with light signal in real experiment this is IMPORTANT ) If You understannd above read again my pdf and write Your opinion when You fight with problem You try find the best way many time You can make mistake ( but one day You wake up and this is it in above pdf in LIGO experiment 4km long pipe You will see exactly what I show in pdf )
Neverfly 2012-11-12 07:19:00
You write what you hypothesize you will see. Yes. Because of experimental observation, I am quite sure. You, however, are operating under a belief that is unverified. This is the fascinating part of your whole post. It all comes down to the psychology in this statement. So, you don't understand Relativity. Yet, somehow, you're convinced that he is 'wrong,' and you're going to show this with this proposal for an experiment based on LIGO. You ignore that the LIGO fac. must account for relativity in its own experiments. You ignore the verification of Relativity, which you do not understand and continue to press that it must be wrong because you must be right. It's like the chicken or the egg: Is he wrong because you are right? Or are you right because he is wrong? I just wonder which came first... Tests of general relativity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Important, you said? No. You believe that we would see what you claim we would in your .pdf presentation. But you're forgetting, your experiment has not been done. You have no confirmation. The experiments in GR have been done. I'll say it again. You're operating from belief.
tesla2 2012-11-12 10:58:00
"""Yes. Because of experimental observation, I am quite sure. You, however, are operating under a belief that is unverified."""" Earth = Inertial coordination system light signal was sent from " inside !!!!!!!" Inertial coordination system DO YOU SEE "X" distance IN MY EXPERIMENT ? read below what right now books say : ************************************************** ********************** Generalizing these observations Galileo postulated his relativity hypothesis: any two observers moving at constant speed and direction with respect to one another will obtain the same results for all mechanical experiments (it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them). In pursuing these ideas Galileo used the scientific method (Sec. 1.2.1): he derived consequences of this hypothesis and determined whether they agree with the predictions. This idea has a very important consequence: velocity is not absolute. This means that velocity can only be measured in reference to some object(s), and that the result of this measurment changes if we decide to measure the velocity with respect to a diferent refernce point(s). Imagine an observer traveling inside a windowless spaceship moving away from the sun at constant velocity. Galileo asserted that there are no mechanical experiments that can be made inside the rocket that will tell the occupants that the rocket is moving . The question ``are we moving'' has no meaning unless we specify a reference frame (``are we moving with respect to that star'' is meaningful). This fact, formulated in the 1600's remains very true today and is one of the cornerstones of Einstein's theories of relativity. ************************************************** ************************ MAROSZ LEARN YOU HOW and CONFIRM BY OWN MEASURE 08/09 of OCTOBER 2012 THAT ABOVE IS NOT TRUE PLEASE THINK THAT ROCKET ( without window ) IN UNIVERSE = EARH IN UNIVERSE make the same experiment inside rocket You will see similar "X" that feet to Your velocity IF BOOKS WRITE THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE IT MEAN IMPOSSIBLE FOR EINSTEIN AND FOR NEWTON NOT FOR MAROSZ I DISCOVER NEW METHOD THIS IS NOBEL !!! NOTHING IS RELATIVE ALL... [Excerpted from the archived discussion.]
Bananas 2012-11-13 13:45:00
This may help: Scoring a revolutionary idea
Neverfly 2012-11-13 14:25:00
Liberal score of 111. Reading the list was interesting enough because on the other forum, there actually is a guy claiming that telepathic aliens have told him how to build a gravity drive. I couldn't believe I'd actually met someone that said such a thing. That list makes it apparent just how common some of these base traits are... well, either that or John Baez has been talking to the same guys I've been talking to and I would prefer to think that's unlikely.
tesla2 2012-11-13 15:13:00
for me X = 300 mm ( in LIGO PIPE ) if X = 300 mm it mean That - 30 km/s prependicular direction give 30 mm X= 300 mm is fact Earth move around SUN 30 km/s is fact Einstein told it is imposiible measuer own velocity in universe it is fact Newton , Galileusz also not measure this what I it is fackt to undertsaand what is revolution You need know physics and not make joke from You LOW LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE but ASK AND TRY LEARN My Patents will Save many people it will be FACT Discover Absolute Space and Velocity I'm MAROSZ it is FACT
Bananas 2012-11-13 15:39:00
Given the surface of the Earth is not an inertial reference frame ( Rotating reference frame - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) how is your set-up measuring the velocity of Earth in the Universe, as opposed to simply the rotation of the Earth?
tesla2 2012-11-13 16:53:00
VERY GOOD QESTION (If I understand You good ? below example explain You all ) this what I design measure only in one direction ( main direction pipe that You set right now ) ( I also can see rotation if I will set prependicular to radius direction ) When You Use my tool in Your car and You accelerate ( I can tell You that Your velocity on direction door - door not change and is zero or Eart Velocity in that moment on this direction but when I will set my tool to direction ( engine - back of Your car ) I will give You info that Your velocity change I need only light sensor conectet to computer that has master time impulse and confirm Your velocity ( each 1 s or each 0,00001 s ) Earth Around SUN is almost constant perfect is that we have own rotation - ( prependicular direction mean Zero velocity or 100% velocity ) SUN and Earth Around galactic also ( change but very small and very long ) please see my pdf INTERSPEEDOMETER tool ( Yelow screen show what I think how I will see rotation / acceleration and constant V ) I can't give You all info I hope we will make experiment exist many relation with grawitation it is not so easy 300 mm like look in my pdf - without test I can't tell You more I know one it work similar to this what I show on this forum